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8ish Weeks post-op and concerned 1 year, 6 months ago #23356

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I don’t have a lot of the specific detail everyone here has, but I will do my best. I have read through many topics, and they don’t seem to mention what I am experiencing. Apologies if I missed this somewhere. Additionally, after reading through so many concerned posts, I feel like I have nothing to complain about. But, naturally I worry so I need to be sure. I am not quite getting the reassurance I need from my therapist.

Pre-op: I weightlifted more often than casually, and my arm was starting to give me pain when I was raising it laterally against resistance. It hurt right on the outside of my deltoid. I went to the doc and the first step was to give me an injection. That didn’t help one bit. So I went back and got an MRI done. The doctor told me I had a small labral tear and possibly a bur that was causing an impingement. Of course, a SLAP repair was advised, as was a “shaving” of the bur. The doctor made it clear that I was symptomatic of rotator cuff issues which was attributed to the impingement, but he still cared more about the tear. He said that no evidence has ever suggested that a “class 1” turns into a “class 2” tear, but theory is that it could. He said it was up to me, but if I wanted to alleviate my pain he had to repair both issues – he couldn’t just do one. Which I understood.

So I went through with it so I could keep weightlifting without pain in the rotator cuff area. He had me slinged 24-7 for 10 days. After I met with him to remove the stitches, I was told I had to sleep with the sling but I could go about my days with it off. I didn’t try to do much of anything during the day. I have a manual and drove a few times but I didn’t really lift my arm above my waist otherwise.

At week 5-ish he referred me to therapy. In my first visit, I received (what appears to be a typical response actually) feedback that my arm was unbelievably tight and was “tighter than most people should be at this point”. We went through plenty of mobility tests and I was given plenty of things to do. Although it didn’t seem like it, I was making fantastic progress. New exercises were being added, I moved into strengthening, etc. I was told I was actually above average in my recovery.

I don’t know a lot of my stats, but with assistance, I have probably gotten about 85-90% of my total range and maybe 60% of that is without assistance. Some things are slower than others…external rotator cuff rotation (Supine Stick External Rotation Stretch 45 degree) was very responsive and I have at least 95% range there. My weakest is rotating the cuff inward (Hand Behind Back Arom), but that is still improving. I was told that that will be the slowest area. I was also told that he is glad that spot is so tight. If that direction was sloppy and easy to move, he would be worried.

Wall Pushups have just been added to my regiment and those seem pretty easy to do, but he doesn’t want me using tables yet. Anyway, I am making progress and according to many other posts, much better progress than some people. Yet, I still have concerns.

Luckily, I haven’t experienced much pain. A twinge here and there, but even from the first day post-op, I haven’t really exceeded a 4 or 5 out of 10. I am very intolerant to pain killers, so I haven’t really taken any. That said, should I be concerned or thankful? Of course, some of the ROM the therapist has done sucked, but only momentarily.

On the topic of pain still – my shoulder CONSTANTLY aches though. Not painfully so. The best way to describe it is like mild growing pains. But, they are there every second of the day. Are these normal? It’s dull, but it is a constant reminder and it’s annoying. This is probably my biggest concern. I mentioned it to the therapist, but he hasn’t been through this surgery and “doesn’t know what growing pains feel like”. He doesn’t seem to be worried about it.

My shoulder also feels “dead” a lot of the time. Not that I can’t engage it or move it, but it just feels “hollow” or “dead”. I assume this is just lack of strength?

I get clicking from time to time and sometimes it’s at different places, but it doesn’t persist for more than a day and it is typically from repetition from one type of movement. I assume the clicking and popping being inconsistent is also a hint that this is normal and will wane once I gain strength?

The front of my shoulder tends to have a sharp ache/pinch to it. Not 24-7, but enough to remind me every 5-10 minutes. This is usually exacerbated when I do the “behind the back” exercise.

Lastly, how possible is it to re-tear this repair, especially just weeks post-op? I worry every second of the day that I re-damaged that spot. I try to remind myself that I was slinged and pretty careful with it. I also remind myself that the doctor and therapist both said I was very tight – so that MUST mean good things in regards to the healing process right? If I were trying to lift things above my head or falling and bracing myself, I could see it. However, my tendency to guard it and the doctor’s desire to keep it so immobile for so long says to me that I likely didn’t hurt it again.

It’s just hard to accept that since this is new to me. I don’t know what to expect so I assume the worst.

Ultimately, is the occasional clicking and incessant “growing pain” ache normal at this point in the game, or are they indicative of new or re-damage to that spot? Am I making a mountain out of mole hill? Part of me feels like I am actually quite fortunate to be gaining strength and mobility back with such little pain that I have no right to be concerned; the other part of me says dude you just ruined everything and you need to start again.

Sorry for the long post. I just wanted to give as much history as I could. Thanks in advance to anyone taking the time to help!

Re: 8ish Weeks post-op and concerned 1 year, 6 months ago #23357

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I should add a couple of things.

1-The therapist said I developed a pretty nasty case of tendonitis on the head of my bicep.
2-I am quite aggressive with my therapy. I do not go beyond what the therapist says, but I always do max reps and push my stretch as far as I can bare it.
3-I was told to push it as hard as I can as coddling it (too much) can do more harm than good. This correct?
4-The therapist appears wishy washy about my concerns and seems more concerned about the pain rather than the chance I can re-damage it.
5-Per the therapists "ok" I am weightlifting again. Only a couple of times a week, but only arms (bi and tri) and with very low weight. He said as long as I don't feel pain and I keep my elbow immobile, he has no problem with it.

Re: 8ish Weeks post-op and concerned 1 year, 6 months ago #23366

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Generally 6 weeks is very protective for SLAP and RC tear. A slow methodical step up in rehab is always the best option and continued healing will happen for the next few months. For the purposes of knowledge try to find out the number of anchors you had for the labral and size of RC tear.

I will say that your therapist is on track with being concerned about your pain as you are past the 6 week mark of protection concerns. Biceps tndonitis/tendonosis is a nasty side effect of the standard SLAP repairs and can plaque for a long time. There are many posts about "biceps tendonosis" from 2010 you can use this phrase to search the database. This is why many OS are doing tenodesis but thats another topic. Suffice to say that most of your pain now is from the Long head biceps, so as your therapist states do not overload this muscle. Flexion streches and eventual very careful biceps streching will give some relief, but if it becomes too aggravated you will be shut down with all exercises. I lived with mine for 2.5 years after SLAP repair. Hopefully yours will resolve quickly.

Re: 8ish Weeks post-op and concerned 1 year, 6 months ago #23373

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I developed a nasty LHB tendonitis after SLAP-I repair. Now after more than a year living with this, I wonder whether this would ever go away. I am living with constant daily pain in front of shoulder. My OS says that tenodesis is not guaranteed to get rid of this pain. So, be VERY careful with the biceps, and don't allow the condition to become chronic.

Re: 8ish Weeks post-op and concerned 1 year, 6 months ago #23374

Hey by the sound of things your experiencing pretty much everything i went through, I'm now 13 weeks post surgery & my shoulder is going fairly well i still question a lot of things i just wish i could have that feeling of being strong again, it's the not knowing how successful the repair is going to be at the end of the day that still gets me.

I remember when i was in the sling for the first 6 weeks & even up to 10 weeks i would get a lot of aches & pains inside my shoulder & i asked myself all the time "i reckon I've torn one of these anchors out" or ive done something really bad. I guess the only real way to tell is to get an MRI done but if you've been super cautious with it i'd say you'd be alright just give it time to heal, stick to your rehab program & don't go off & do heavy weights without consulting your physio first. Also i was told by my surgeon that if one of the anchors are to be ripped out you would be in excruciating pain & would definitely know about it.

The thing I'm getting now is when I perform certain exercises i get all this clicking & clunking, i think i can feel the anchors moving with my shoulder now that i have all my ROM back. But I'm finding with each day it gets better, i was told 3 months till full ROM then 6 months till i can start forgetting about & return to surfing hard again so I'm only half way, i think we just got to be patient.

Hope all goes well

Glenn

Re: 8ish Weeks post-op and concerned 1 year, 6 months ago #23375

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sskylor wrote:
Generally 6 weeks is very protective for SLAP and RC tear. A slow methodical step up in rehab is always the best option and continued healing will happen for the next few months. For the purposes of knowledge try to find out the number of anchors you had for the labral and size of RC tear.


I didn't have an RC tear thankfully. He said the space above it was mucked up with growth, so he cleared the area out. Lateral raises are now uncomfortable because of lack of strength and tightness, but the sharp pain I had pre-op is no longer there.

As far I understand your post, other than pain being a concern, the likelihood that I retore it is minimal? It appears what I am experiencing is normal for a successful surgery?

Being 8 weeks post-op, I am discouraged by the aches and occasional bicep tendon flare up, yet I can't help but think I am healing quickly since ROM (assisted) is quite high, ROM (unassisted is decent but improving fast) and strength is coming back in leaps and bounds.

Since I was not experiencing any pain from the labral tear pre-op, it is hard for me to judge whether this discomfort is normal or indicative of an unsuccessful surgery/re-tearing.
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